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Post by Shakujou on Aug 13, 2008 2:09:04 GMT -5
I can't really remember her acting that well.
I kinda wanted to see her dead though, she was annoying to me. Harvey, you really should have offed her. ;_;
I been wondering about this for a while, but do you think Two Face had split personalities and just the more insane side took over when he was killing people? Or did Harvey as a whole just go insane?
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Post by Inuyasha-Kun on Aug 13, 2008 2:15:47 GMT -5
Harvey just went insane. As you noticed, ever since he got half his face gone, Harvey had never been sincere or nice as he was when he had his full face. The loss of Rachel completely made him lose his mind.
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Post by Shakujou on Aug 13, 2008 2:19:46 GMT -5
Ah okay, just making sure. Cause in some of the comics, he had split personalities and I wasn't sure if The Dark Knight wanted to go with that or not.
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Post by Inuyasha-Kun on Aug 13, 2008 12:18:27 GMT -5
Naw. They went with descending into madness. It was just as the Joker said when he was hanging upside down. He gave Harvey a little push and sent him into madness.
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Post by Shakujou on Aug 13, 2008 13:40:39 GMT -5
I love the Joker for doing that too. xD
But just like Heath's Joker, Eckhart's Two Face is different from the comic books, Their core elements are the same, but there are still many changes. In my opinion, I loved the Joker and Two Face more than past movies/cartoons and the comic books.
Comic book Joke just kinda laughed a lot (but still kinda sadistic) and was playful. Then it went to a completely insane/psychotic Joker from TDK that was hella a lot more scary. The old Joker has his face from acid burns while Heath's Joker said it is from make-up. But in the end, they're both crazy "clowns" that cause chaos and not be serious.
Comic book Two Face (well, in later versions) was a split-personality from child abuse. He commits crimes (like stealing from banks and such) and the coin was scratched up rather than burned. TDK Two Face was more vengeful and felt more like a vigilante than a villain (I really don't see him robbing banks). But in the end, he's a guy who got half his face burnt off and makes important decisions on the flip of a coin.
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Post by Inuyasha-Kun on Aug 13, 2008 18:10:26 GMT -5
Also, I think TDK's Joker smile is 100x better then how the cartoon's joker just smiled all the time. I loved the fact that the Joker in TDK never actually smiled all the time. Instead, they used scars from his face and makeup to make it look like a smile. I thought that was absolutely brilliant.
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Post by Shakujou on Aug 13, 2008 18:18:53 GMT -5
Yeah, it kinda seems more realistic that way.
Plus, the Joker can tell how he got those scars. xD Those scenes are probably one of my favorite parts of the movie.
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Post by Inuyasha-Kun on Aug 13, 2008 18:46:36 GMT -5
Yeah seriously. I cant stop loving the scene where he explains how his dad give him the scars. Its a perfect scene.
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Post by Shakujou on Aug 13, 2008 18:50:32 GMT -5
I'm glad that gore and blood didn't come out though. The scene proved that you don't need excess violence to be totally awesome.
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Post by Inuyasha-Kun on Aug 13, 2008 18:55:04 GMT -5
But if they did, it would have been pretty d**n gruesome. Not to mention the loss of the PG-13 rating.
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Post by Shakujou on Aug 13, 2008 19:27:26 GMT -5
Yeah.
I'm not a fan of gore, so I'm glad that they did that.
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Post by Inuyasha-Kun on Aug 13, 2008 21:30:02 GMT -5
I was scared they might do that. Really. XD
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Post by Shakujou on Aug 13, 2008 21:39:16 GMT -5
I was just wondering how much they were going to show.
That's probably one of the reasons why I was on the edge of my seat when he was doing that.
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Post by Inuyasha-Kun on Aug 13, 2008 23:12:29 GMT -5
Yeah. I was wondering too. In a way, I doubted they would, but they made the scene so intense that they could have. XD
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Post by Shakujou on Aug 13, 2008 23:13:53 GMT -5
Yeah.
Is it just me, or did Batman feel more like a side character in the movie? xD
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